Christianity

QuietWOW · January 14th, 2001, 07:29 PM

A place to share

wonder210 · February 21st, 2001, 07:45 PM

As a Christian, I feel that I should give my input here. However, what should I say? Most everyone in the Western world knows of Christianity. I can't speak for the Eastern world. I was born into Christianity and still believe that there is a Higher Power who can guide us in our lives, and is there for us to lean on at any time- not just in times of trouble.

I lean on my religion quite a bit at times. I feel that if you're going to be a member of a religion, you should live it. I'm certainly not a perfect member of my religion, but I try. And I think that's what it's all about.

antiana · March 5th, 2001, 10:41 AM

((((( wonder ))))) good for you! I feel that one should try hard to live their religion also.
<BR> Just being a good person is so difficult for some these days.<BR> I think we are so lucky in the US and some other places that we are allowed to worship as we want. Religious wars scare me... I believe in a peaceful God.

DrHilieWho · July 11th, 2001, 11:10 AM

http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2001/0...ies/index.html

I'm not a Christian but I try to be very open-minded when it comes to religion. This article came up at another board I visit, and most of the Christian posters were as flabbergasted as I was.

MommaD · July 12th, 2001, 01:46 PM

This doesn't flabbergast me a bit. With Bush as president, we can expect to continue to see things like this on a regular basis.

For those who are happy, you may send all thank you notes to the Supreme Court.

DrHilieWho · July 12th, 2001, 06:48 PM

A little bit of good news, the white house was extremely embarrassed when this report hit the media. They backed down saying there was a miscommunication among other things. Of course, Bush isn't publicly backing the idea at this time...but I think it has opened people's eyes to what the faith based initiative plan will accomplish. Religious groups are not going to want to take the goverments money if they have to deal with the regulations. I still think the whole idea is a bad one.

tupi · July 12th, 2001, 07:36 PM

I don't single out any particular religion to believe. I'm a deeply spiritual person, but I'm not at all religious. Religions too often strike me as so businesslike that they can become enmeshed in their own rules. I think the teachings of Jesus Christ are a good basis for life, but I'm not so sure he'd be proud of some of the religions that bear his name. It seems to me a good many bad things have been done in the name of Christ. What a pity....

DrHilieWho · July 13th, 2001, 12:33 AM

We were having a similar discussion in WS the other day, except focusing on individuals instead of groups. I've had the fortunate experience of meeting people who took their religions to heart, and made it a major priority to live according to those beliefs. I aspire to be one of them

However, it seems that most people just want to fit in to their religion, and they do as little as necessary to qualify.

Have religions become more like clubhouses than systems of belief? I'm not talking just about Christianity, so I hope no one is offended by the question. Pagan religions have their fair share of fluff. It just seems that there is so much placed on what a person calls herself than in what she believes.

LiamFan! · July 13th, 2001, 10:09 AM

I think the social aspect and sense of community has always been a big part of what religion is about.

For all the bad things said about the church (in my case, Catholic), there is no feeling like the peace of mind I get sometimes when I go to Mass.

DrHilieWho · July 14th, 2001, 11:06 AM

In the end I think that

is the most important thing

huee · July 14th, 2001, 02:49 PM

i agree. for myself, my "religion" is 2nd to my spirituality, but i still identify myself by telling ppl i'm Catholic. unfortunately, as w/so many other things these days, the media, the gov't & the $$$ is controlling much of the image put out to the public. i do believe there is something to the idea of practicing your actual rituals in private, but living your life so that your faith touches everything you do.

tupi · July 15th, 2001, 12:05 PM

My son once asked me if I believed in God. I told him I did. He said he thought it was a silly concept. He really was leaning toward the ideas of the athiests. (He was 15 at the time, and really wanted to be a rebel.) I told him that the problem with being an athiest is that you had to identify who you were by using God. I believed it to be moot. If you spend your spiritual life trying to prove God doesn't exist, you almost have to use the beliefs of his existence to do so, if you ever can. I believe that if God didn't exist society would create him. Religions come from social connections and how could you ever prove something so abstract as a belief to be wrong. I'm not anit-religion. Some of my dearest friends are deeply religious, and I admire them for their devotion. I'm just not good with rules. I prefer to see the actions of people who profess their beliefs.

DrHilieWho · July 15th, 2001, 01:45 PM

I think that would be a very good conversation for the athiest folder. I don't see atheism that way at all, just a lack of belief in any higher power. Not to be proven or disproven, but just how you feel about the world.

tupi · July 16th, 2001, 06:34 AM

Actually, I agree with you DrHilieWho, but for a means of making a 15 year old boy think, it worked like a charm. He now believes in God and prays often not only for himself but for others. He has always been a kind person who was given to offer solace and comfort to others, but now he does so with spirit!

DrHilieWho · July 16th, 2001, 09:52 AM

LOL I see your point. For a 15 yr old, special measures are sometimes needed

January 14th, 2001, 07:29 PM	#1
QuietWOW WOW Host Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 70	Christianity A place to share

July 11th, 2001, 11:10 AM	#4
DrHilieWho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 244	http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2001/0...ies/index.html I'm not a Christian but I try to be very open-minded when it comes to religion. This article came up at another board I visit, and most of the Christian posters were as flabbergasted as I was. __________________ Visit my husband's new webpage for gameaholics! Timesplitters2 Network!

July 12th, 2001, 06:48 PM	#6
DrHilieWho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 244	A little bit of good news, the white house was extremely embarrassed when this report hit the media. They backed down saying there was a miscommunication among other things. Of course, Bush isn't publicly backing the idea at this time...but I think it has opened people's eyes to what the faith based initiative plan will accomplish. Religious groups are not going to want to take the goverments money if they have to deal with the regulations. I still think the whole idea is a bad one. __________________ Visit my husband's new webpage for gameaholics! Timesplitters2 Network!

July 13th, 2001, 12:33 AM	#8
DrHilieWho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 244	We were having a similar discussion in WS the other day, except focusing on individuals instead of groups. I've had the fortunate experience of meeting people who took their religions to heart, and made it a major priority to live according to those beliefs. I aspire to be one of them However, it seems that most people just want to fit in to their religion, and they do as little as necessary to qualify. Have religions become more like clubhouses than systems of belief? I'm not talking just about Christianity, so I hope no one is offended by the question. Pagan religions have their fair share of fluff. It just seems that there is so much placed on what a person calls herself than in what she believes. __________________ Visit my husband's new webpage for gameaholics! Timesplitters2 Network!

July 13th, 2001, 10:09 AM	#9
LiamFan! Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,048	I think the social aspect and sense of community has always been a big part of what religion is about. For all the bad things said about the church (in my case, Catholic), there is no feeling like the peace of mind I get sometimes when I go to Mass. __________________ Love is never defeated, and I could add, the history of Ireland proves it. -- Pope John Paul II

February 21st, 2001, 07:45 PM	#2
wonder210 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 4	As a Christian, I feel that I should give my input here. However, what should I say? Most everyone in the Western world knows of Christianity. I can't speak for the Eastern world. I was born into Christianity and still believe that there is a Higher Power who can guide us in our lives, and is there for us to lean on at any time- not just in times of trouble. I lean on my religion quite a bit at times. I feel that if you're going to be a member of a religion, you should live it. I'm certainly not a perfect member of my religion, but I try. And I think that's what it's all about.

March 5th, 2001, 10:41 AM	#3
antiana Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: KY, USA Posts: 210	((((( wonder ))))) good for you! I feel that one should try hard to live their religion also. <BR> Just being a good person is so difficult for some these days.<BR> I think we are so lucky in the US and some other places that we are allowed to worship as we want. Religious wars scare me... I believe in a peaceful God.

July 12th, 2001, 01:46 PM	#5
MommaD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 57	This doesn't flabbergast me a bit. With Bush as president, we can expect to continue to see things like this on a regular basis. For those who are happy, you may send all thank you notes to the Supreme Court.

July 12th, 2001, 07:36 PM	#7
tupi Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 144	I don't single out any particular religion to believe. I'm a deeply spiritual person, but I'm not at all religious. Religions too often strike me as so businesslike that they can become enmeshed in their own rules. I think the teachings of Jesus Christ are a good basis for life, but I'm not so sure he'd be proud of some of the religions that bear his name. It seems to me a good many bad things have been done in the name of Christ. What a pity....

July 14th, 2001, 11:06 AM	#10
DrHilieWho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 244	In the end I think that is the most important thing __________________ Visit my husband's new webpage for gameaholics! Timesplitters2 Network!

July 14th, 2001, 02:49 PM	#11
huee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: TN Posts: 54	i agree. for myself, my "religion" is 2nd to my spirituality, but i still identify myself by telling ppl i'm Catholic. unfortunately, as w/so many other things these days, the media, the gov't & the $$$ is controlling much of the image put out to the public. i do believe there is something to the idea of practicing your actual rituals in private, but living your life so that your faith touches everything you do. __________________ "love like you've never been hurt"

July 15th, 2001, 12:05 PM	#12
tupi Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 144	My son once asked me if I believed in God. I told him I did. He said he thought it was a silly concept. He really was leaning toward the ideas of the athiests. (He was 15 at the time, and really wanted to be a rebel.) I told him that the problem with being an athiest is that you had to identify who you were by using God. I believed it to be moot. If you spend your spiritual life trying to prove God doesn't exist, you almost have to use the beliefs of his existence to do so, if you ever can. I believe that if God didn't exist society would create him. Religions come from social connections and how could you ever prove something so abstract as a belief to be wrong. I'm not anit-religion. Some of my dearest friends are deeply religious, and I admire them for their devotion. I'm just not good with rules. I prefer to see the actions of people who profess their beliefs.

July 15th, 2001, 01:45 PM	#13
DrHilieWho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 244	I think that would be a very good conversation for the athiest folder. I don't see atheism that way at all, just a lack of belief in any higher power. Not to be proven or disproven, but just how you feel about the world. __________________ Visit my husband's new webpage for gameaholics! Timesplitters2 Network!

July 16th, 2001, 06:34 AM	#14
tupi Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 144	Actually, I agree with you DrHilieWho, but for a means of making a 15 year old boy think, it worked like a charm. He now believes in God and prays often not only for himself but for others. He has always been a kind person who was given to offer solace and comfort to others, but now he does so with spirit!

July 16th, 2001, 09:52 AM	#15
DrHilieWho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 244	LOL I see your point. For a 15 yr old, special measures are sometimes needed __________________ Visit my husband's new webpage for gameaholics! Timesplitters2 Network!