My pregnant beagle.

MissChaos · August 14th, 2008, 06:45 PM

She's been pregnant for 65 days today. I've read several articles saying that basically those pups should be coming out by now. Today she began to heavily pant, shake, and has refused food. I took this as an indication of labor. By 5 there were still no puppies so I decided to check out some more articles. All of them stated if such symptoms lasted more than 1-2 hours something was definitely wrong. So, I informed my dad and he agreed that he didn't think things were right and he brought her to the vet. I was wondering if anyone has ever experienced this with their pets.

kraftykid · August 14th, 2008, 09:27 PM

Please tell us what the vet said.

MissChaos · August 14th, 2008, 10:53 PM

Everything is okay now. She was just too small for them to come out. =] The vet gave us oxytoxin shots and so far we have 4 pups.

Tammy · August 15th, 2008, 11:38 PM

Glad to hear she's ok, but please have her spayed so she doesn't have to go through that again.

kraftykid · August 16th, 2008, 05:53 PM

We use to raise Dalmatian pups, show and sell them. After I quit work it was just too expensive to go on anymore. It can cost thousands to raise a big healthy litter of pups. First the stud fee, then the vet fee to see if she was really bred. Yeah dogs have false pregnancies. After the litter is born comes the trips to the vet for checkups and dew claw removals. Keeping and working with the pups until they are 8 weeks old. Then comes the hearing tests and the hip tests. Then finding quality homes for show dogs, checking out prospective buyers. Paper training, socializing, teaching the word no. Friends of ours use to take newspapers out of the recycling bin because they needed more newspaper for the welping boxes. Oh and then comes the trip south of have our mentor double check our evaluations. We now have 4 dogs. One we bought, the other three we got through the rescue or the pound.

The greatest thing AKC ever did was to have the two types of registration. One for show, one for pets. There is nothing worse then finding out that one of your pet puppies was bred. At least they cannot be shown. It may sound silly, but with the hard work you also gain a reputation of breeding good quality, healthy show dogs, ones that follow the standards and will get their championships.

Oh and I forgot the expense of going to dog shows. Long ways away and entry fees kept getting higher.

Some may not agree with my feelings and I know my arguments will mean nothing to you. However there is a great satisfaction in rescuing a pet. Besides that they are usually older, have some manners, and are potty trained. (G)

rjsfeminist · August 16th, 2008, 10:26 PM

Hey, MissChaos, what was the final puppy count? How's mom and pups?

It's a good thing I don't live nearby; I'd probably consider picking one.

Melynn · August 16th, 2008, 10:36 PM

I have a purebred Havanese and was required by the breeder's contract to have her spayed at six months old and provide paperwork to the breeder. If I failed to honor the contract, she could have removed the dog from me. I understand completely why responsible breeders don't want their puppies bred.

Tammy · August 16th, 2008, 11:27 PM

I admit, I can be a bit too harsh sometimes... but when it comes to spaying and neutering, I'll take my chances.

It's TOO important!

There are about 9 beagles sitting in our pound right this minute and every last one of them will be dead by the middle of next week. There's twice that many hounds.

People around think just because it's a purebred, it should be re-bred.. over and over.. and then they'll sell them for $100 a piece as hunting dogs! Make some money! And then the new owner finds out the gene pool wasn't quite as instinctually mapped as it should have been and the dogs won't hunt. Off to the pound they go and they try again with the next litter. Meanwhile, the pound just keeps killing them off, week after week, year after year.

IRISH_EYES_99 · August 17th, 2008, 10:18 AM

How very sad ((((((( Tammy )))))). My kids want to get me a pup after we move. Told them if they do I go with them to the POUND. So if we do get one. It will be one that is saved.

MissChaos · August 17th, 2008, 12:08 PM

First let me get this out of the way! Tammy, I agree with taking care of your pets in such a way but this pregnancy was very planned(Though not my idea). It will be the first and only time for her. She was bred for the family because they are all big hunters.

The final count is 4. Two black and white ones and two brown and whites one. Two females and two males. Sadly, one didn't make it. Poor little fella. The good news is mamma and the rest of the bunch are doing very well.

Irish, that's a very good idea. There are too many lovely animals out there without homes.

Tammy · August 17th, 2008, 04:49 PM

That just makes me sad.

kelki398 · August 19th, 2008, 10:35 PM

While we are on the subject...worse is what happens to rabbits. People buy them for their kids...realize what hard work they are and then let them go thinking they are doing them a favor. They soon die as they don't know how to live, can't survive severe temps and become prey for bigger animals. They are such sweet creatures but surely the most mis understood.

Tammy · August 20th, 2008, 12:42 AM

Be still my heart... someone that understands rabbits

I almost got thrown out of a pet store once because someone asked about rabbits being "low maintenance" and "a great starter pet" but there was no sales associate around, so I told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! The lady left without a rabbit.

rjsfeminist · September 6th, 2008, 05:27 PM

Good for you, Tammy.

We have two kitties, one male (Karma Kitty) and one female (Drexie Calabash). Karma was neutered several months after we got him, and Drexie will be spade soon. Since they're both indoor kitties (and Drexie's a little timid about going out alone), there's little chance of anything dire happening before she has her surgery. Our last cat was spade, as was our dog. I have no objections to responsible owners letting their pets have one or two litters (otherwise, most of us wouldn't have had pets), but to let them keep breeding over and over and over and...is so totally irresponsible.

I'll stop there to keep myself from going into a MAJOR rant!

PoohsBigSister · September 6th, 2008, 08:08 PM

i'm adding my .02 on the rabbit.. SHE IS A TON OF WORK!!!!!! AND COSTLY TOO!!!!!!

bunnies should not be sold as PETS!! grrr... the one who bought ours knew from the get-go that he was supposed to be responsible for her!!! but when he left.. he left her here..sooo..even though I am allergic to her..i care for her. She is after all, our family pet. sigh.

August 14th, 2008, 06:45 PM	#1
MissChaos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17	My pregnant beagle. She's been pregnant for 65 days today. I've read several articles saying that basically those pups should be coming out by now. Today she began to heavily pant, shake, and has refused food. I took this as an indication of labor. By 5 there were still no puppies so I decided to check out some more articles. All of them stated if such symptoms lasted more than 1-2 hours something was definitely wrong. So, I informed my dad and he agreed that he didn't think things were right and he brought her to the vet. I was wondering if anyone has ever experienced this with their pets.

August 17th, 2008, 10:18 AM	#9
IRISH_EYES_99 Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: in the state of confusion :) Posts: 3,524	How very sad ((((((( Tammy )))))). My kids want to get me a pup after we move. Told them if they do I go with them to the POUND. So if we do get one. It will be one that is saved. __________________ Smiles are contagious. It's ok to pass them on. *

August 19th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#12
kelki398 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8	While we are on the subject...worse is what happens to rabbits. People buy them for their kids...realize what hard work they are and then let them go thinking they are doing them a favor. They soon die as they don't know how to live, can't survive severe temps and become prey for bigger animals. They are such sweet creatures but surely the most mis understood. __________________

September 6th, 2008, 08:08 PM	#15
PoohsBigSister Long Live WOW!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CO Posts: 1,791	i'm adding my .02 on the rabbit.. SHE IS A TON OF WORK!!!!!! AND COSTLY TOO!!!!!! bunnies should not be sold as PETS!! grrr... the one who bought ours knew from the get-go that he was supposed to be responsible for her!!! but when he left.. he left her here..sooo..even though I am allergic to her..i care for her. She is after all, our family pet. sigh. __________________ "Life is a flower of which love is the honey." Victor Hugo

August 14th, 2008, 09:27 PM	#2
kraftykid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 52	Please tell us what the vet said.

August 14th, 2008, 10:53 PM	#3
MissChaos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17	Everything is okay now. She was just too small for them to come out. =] The vet gave us oxytoxin shots and so far we have 4 pups.

August 15th, 2008, 11:38 PM	#4
Tammy Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 143	Glad to hear she's ok, but please have her spayed so she doesn't have to go through that again.

August 16th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#5
kraftykid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 52	We use to raise Dalmatian pups, show and sell them. After I quit work it was just too expensive to go on anymore. It can cost thousands to raise a big healthy litter of pups. First the stud fee, then the vet fee to see if she was really bred. Yeah dogs have false pregnancies. After the litter is born comes the trips to the vet for checkups and dew claw removals. Keeping and working with the pups until they are 8 weeks old. Then comes the hearing tests and the hip tests. Then finding quality homes for show dogs, checking out prospective buyers. Paper training, socializing, teaching the word no. Friends of ours use to take newspapers out of the recycling bin because they needed more newspaper for the welping boxes. Oh and then comes the trip south of have our mentor double check our evaluations. We now have 4 dogs. One we bought, the other three we got through the rescue or the pound. The greatest thing AKC ever did was to have the two types of registration. One for show, one for pets. There is nothing worse then finding out that one of your pet puppies was bred. At least they cannot be shown. It may sound silly, but with the hard work you also gain a reputation of breeding good quality, healthy show dogs, ones that follow the standards and will get their championships. Oh and I forgot the expense of going to dog shows. Long ways away and entry fees kept getting higher. Some may not agree with my feelings and I know my arguments will mean nothing to you. However there is a great satisfaction in rescuing a pet. Besides that they are usually older, have some manners, and are potty trained. (G)

August 16th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#6
rjsfeminist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: west central Florida Posts: 1,564	Hey, MissChaos, what was the final puppy count? How's mom and pups? It's a good thing I don't live nearby; I'd probably consider picking one.

August 16th, 2008, 10:36 PM	#7
Melynn Queen Goddess Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 260	I have a purebred Havanese and was required by the breeder's contract to have her spayed at six months old and provide paperwork to the breeder. If I failed to honor the contract, she could have removed the dog from me. I understand completely why responsible breeders don't want their puppies bred.

August 16th, 2008, 11:27 PM	#8
Tammy Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 143	I admit, I can be a bit too harsh sometimes... but when it comes to spaying and neutering, I'll take my chances. It's TOO important! There are about 9 beagles sitting in our pound right this minute and every last one of them will be dead by the middle of next week. There's twice that many hounds. People around think just because it's a purebred, it should be re-bred.. over and over.. and then they'll sell them for $100 a piece as hunting dogs! Make some money! And then the new owner finds out the gene pool wasn't quite as instinctually mapped as it should have been and the dogs won't hunt. Off to the pound they go and they try again with the next litter. Meanwhile, the pound just keeps killing them off, week after week, year after year.

August 17th, 2008, 12:08 PM	#10
MissChaos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17	First let me get this out of the way! Tammy, I agree with taking care of your pets in such a way but this pregnancy was very planned(Though not my idea). It will be the first and only time for her. She was bred for the family because they are all big hunters. The final count is 4. Two black and white ones and two brown and whites one. Two females and two males. Sadly, one didn't make it. Poor little fella. The good news is mamma and the rest of the bunch are doing very well. Irish, that's a very good idea. There are too many lovely animals out there without homes.

August 17th, 2008, 04:49 PM	#11
Tammy Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 143	That just makes me sad.

August 20th, 2008, 12:42 AM	#13
Tammy Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 143	Be still my heart... someone that understands rabbits I almost got thrown out of a pet store once because someone asked about rabbits being "low maintenance" and "a great starter pet" but there was no sales associate around, so I told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! The lady left without a rabbit.

September 6th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#14
rjsfeminist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: west central Florida Posts: 1,564	Good for you, Tammy. We have two kitties, one male (Karma Kitty) and one female (Drexie Calabash). Karma was neutered several months after we got him, and Drexie will be spade soon. Since they're both indoor kitties (and Drexie's a little timid about going out alone), there's little chance of anything dire happening before she has her surgery. Our last cat was spade, as was our dog. I have no objections to responsible owners letting their pets have one or two litters (otherwise, most of us wouldn't have had pets), but to let them keep breeding over and over and over and...is so totally irresponsible. I'll stop there to keep myself from going into a MAJOR rant!